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    Hello, today I've read your promotion terms and conditions of Cocoa Casino twice and haven't yet found your wagering requirements.
    Maybe I'm stupid but I don't see your wagering requirements of your welcome bonus.

    Hope to see your quick reply, because I'm working on the reviewing of your casinos and gathering the materials.
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    Hi,
    at least you may find this mantra:
    "The casino reserves the right to"
    Plus good looking page:TERMS OF USE
    with this small funny things:
    (the �Licensed Materials�)�fun play� or �real play�, player�s �Promotions terms and conditions� �help� facility

    Good luck in your searches, aksana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aksana View Post
    Hello, today I've read your promotion terms and conditions of Cocoa Casino twice and haven't yet found your wagering requirements.
    Maybe I'm stupid but I don't see your wagering requirements of your welcome bonus.

    Hope to see your quick reply, because I'm working on the reviewing of your casinos and gathering the materials.

    They list it in the casino lobby in the promotions window.

    it's 14x (deposit+bonus) for the 100% upto $350


    When compared to the 30x requirement, the larger the deposit the lower the playthrough wagering becomes. A $350 deposit at the typical 30x requires $10,500 in wagering, a $350 deposit at the 14X required $9800 in wagering.

    Drop the figures down to a $100 deposit and the difference between the two wagering models is $200, ($3,000 30x) vs. ($2800 14x)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonus-map View Post
    Hi,
    at least you may find this mantra:
    "The casino reserves the right to"
    Plus good looking page:TERMS OF USE
    with this small funny things:
    (the �Licensed Materials�)�fun play� or �real play�, player�s �Promotions terms and conditions� �help� facility

    Good luck in your searches, aksana.
    I've read all their terms and conditions
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    Quote Originally Posted by slotplayer View Post
    They list it in the casino lobby in the promotions window.

    it's 14x (deposit+bonus) for the 100% upto $350


    When compared to the 30x requirement, the larger the deposit the lower the playthrough wagering becomes. A $350 deposit at the typical 30x requires $10,500 in wagering, a $350 deposit at the 14X required $9800 in wagering.

    Drop the figures down to a $100 deposit and the difference between the two wagering models is $200, ($3,000 30x) vs. ($2800 14x)

    Cheers,
    Slotplayer
    Cool! thanks a lot, you've helped me very much.
    Maybe you know their wagering requirements for Da Vinci's Gold Casino, This is Vegas and Paradise8 Casino. If you don't know I'll download their software and check it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slotplayer View Post
    They list it in the casino lobby in the promotions window.

    it's 14x (deposit+bonus) for the 100% upto $350


    When compared to the 30x requirement, the larger the deposit the lower the playthrough wagering becomes. A $350 deposit at the typical 30x requires $10,500 in wagering, a $350 deposit at the 14X required $9800 in wagering.

    Drop the figures down to a $100 deposit and the difference between the two wagering models is $200, ($3,000 30x) vs. ($2800 14x)

    Cheers,
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    Hi,
    would you supply us with the link to the page where my players would be able to read in clear language TERMS & CONDITIONS for the wagering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonus-map View Post
    Hi,
    would you supply us with the link to the page where my players would be able to read in clear language TERMS & CONDITIONS for the wagering?
    I didn't find it and also would like to know how a new player can know about wagering requirements. It's very important information for players that is impossible to find on the site.

    For example, today I downloaded Da Vinci's Gold Casino to find its wagering requirements and I didn't find them even in the lobby. I like all casinos of 400 affiliates, I really was impressed of their graphics and interactive slots, so I would like that they offer the best service with clear terms and conditions.

    Hope to hear 400 affiliates' reply as soon as possible.

    P.S. And fix your encoding settings on your terms and conditions page at Cocoa Casino, it looks not professionally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aksana View Post
    Cool! thanks a lot, you've helped me very much.
    Maybe you know their wagering requirements for Da Vinci's Gold Casino, This is Vegas and Paradise8 Casino. If you don't know I'll download their software and check it.
    Sorry I don't, I downloaded Cocoa Casino to review it last year. In the lobby on the right there is a promotions window. I was going to copy and paste the entire text but could not highlight it. Nothing in the promotions window on the other casinos?

    They do provide info in their marketing materials though.

    Consider Cleopatra's Coins:

    Payout Percentage 96.9%

    Hit Percentage:
    At 1 line approximately 20% of spins will have a win and at 15 lines approximately 9% of spins will win more than the original bet. Overall, approximately 46% of spins will have some kind of win associated with them. Maximum coins allowed is 5 and maximum lines allowed is 15.

    Return Percentage
    Of the 96.9% payout, 82% should be returned within 1,000 spins.

    A slot with al hit percentage of 50+% (land-based Wheel of Fortune for example) is considered a high hit frequency machine or game. There will be hits more than 50% of the time. However, the wins tend to be small.

    A low hit frequency machine or game (Cleopartas Coins for example at 46%) might be considered a low hit frequency machine or game, the hits won't be very often but when it does hit the wins tend to be significant.

    Generally, the payout percentage of a land casino slot game can be calculated in roughly 1,000 spins. Imho, a return percentage of 82% is somewhat on the low side for any slot game.

    However, with Cleopatra's Coins after a 1,000 spins you can see that the payout percentage jumps up significantly, from 82% to almost 97%, which is why I promote it. Most players that just deposit the minimum will never get to the 1,000 spin mark and thus miss out on games' true performance.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonus-map View Post
    Hi,
    would you supply us with the link to the page where my players would be able to read in clear language TERMS & CONDITIONS for the wagering?


    it's not really clear.

    http://www.cocoacasino.com/promoterms.html

    The second line down says this:

    Players from restricted countries will be informed of their respective wagering requirements or promotional eligibility in the cashier by clicking on the promotion name.
    I'm not really sure what that means, doesn't restricted mean forbidden?

    I was actually was heading to check the cashier when I noticed the wagering requirement in the promotions window in the Cocoa Casino lobby.


    I did write an article on wagering (playthrough) many months ago.
    For some reason I have this paragraph in there.

    In some casinos it can be as low as 10x like Cocoa Casino or 20x like Super Slots. but many times when the play-through requirement is low it is the combined amount of the deposit plus the amount of the signup bonus. Specifically look for this condition. For frequent players (VIP members) the play-through can be 15x or lower.

    Apparently, I got that info from some place, but it looks like it has changed since then.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks SlotPlayer for your help.
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