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    Default Regarding SSD talking about Canada, get your information correct.

    Regarding Canada having PST and GST, I live in Alberta which by the way has one of the best economies in NOrth America and no PST. We have higher taxes to pay in Canada which give us back benefits in return and that is definitely one thing you do not get in the United States.

    I remember back in the late sixties a lot of Draft Dodgers from the Viet Nam War coming to Canada and have chosen never to go back. For the amount that the American Government has gotten the people of the United States in debt you thinlk you would have gotten someting in return. What have you got back 0, A LEGACY OF INDEBT PER PERSON OF $29,000 USD.

    I hope people heard the news today about the threat of your President Bush and his popularity with his being a threat to the World Peace. Check the following link.
    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...d=968332188492

    By the way as a Canadian we are going to be forced to have to have a passport effective in the next year or so to come to the States. That is definitely a Crock, you Americans better learn that you need to have a right in what your politicians do, as they seem to me that they do whatever they want at the expense of the ordinary citizen.

    One thing that your politicians have done AK Jackass George Bush is that they are alienating the United States from the rest of the World. Hatred for Americans is at an all time high in the Arab World especially in Iraq where seven in ten Iraqis want the Americans gone.

    If you wonder why the States is targeted for terrorism, it isn't hard to figure out.

    One thing as Canadians we are the number 5 country ranked in the World for most liveable, check where the United States is.
    http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.html
    Back in 2000 and a few other years we were Number 1.
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    We also have a national health care system, government pensions and a lot more from our government than what the Americans have from their Federal Government. We also do not have a National Debt per person of $29,000 USD, we have a National Debt of approximately $15,000 USD per person.
    Actually 15k is high for country with 32 million vs. 29k for a country with 300 million. The Canadian unemployment rate is pretty high too at about 7.6%.

    I'm sure those that bad mouth America wern't doing so when they had all those American players forking over their hard earned cash.
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    I live in Alberta which by the way has one of the best economies in NOrth America
    Oh sorry the way you were ranting I thought you were a French Canadian in Quebec. My apologies. Glad the price of oil went over $70 a barrel so you could squeeze the juice out of Alberta sand for a profit. (Oh wait, I think we own that company too).

    By the way as a Canadian we are going to be forced to have to have a passport effective in the next year or so to come to the States.
    You don't want to come here anyways. It sucks remember?

    We hope that our politicians are not as narrow minded as the likes of George Bush (ak Jackass #1)
    How dare you!!! We in the U.S. know the #1 Jackass is Johnny Knoxville.

    I'm sorry, I really love you yanks. My comments here are totally unacceptable because I make a great living off U.S. gamblers (props to slotplayer ) and not to mention I've had too many "I Am Canadian Molsens"
    I Am Canadian Molsen beer. Actually a U.S. run company and yes it still tastes like (but with more alcohol )
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    Oh yeah Canada population approx 33 million. Canada land mass 3,612,187 sq miles United States 3,539,224 sq miles. I love Canada but like with any country there are drawbacks. The taxes up here are nuts! Canadians pay tax on tax.

    But the real gem of Canada is our natural resources. Canada hasn't even begun exploring its' natural resources. If we started expoiting our natural resources I don't think any canadian would have too work.

    Our military slowly getting better. I think we have two tanks now, but I think the U.S would come to our aid if needed. In fact during my studies the U.S provides this quarantee in their constitution. I quess when the Canadians burnt down the White House the U.S felt compelled to give us some concessions. Yes their was a time the U.S was affraid of Canada.

    There is a bit a bitterness torwards the U.S since Bush took over.

    As for Guns I have never felt one.

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    Thumbs up Exactly the Response I was looking to get from some Americans.

    I am glad to see the response back to some of the comments that I made. I don't dislike Americans, my ancestory goes quite a way back in the United States where my forefathers came from. Both my Grand Parents were from the United States and came to western Canada in 1910 to homestead as farmers.

    My problem is the Bush Administration and the total lack of concern for the average citizen of the United States. I use to believe in George Bush myself until the last year when I started reading more and finding out the truths about him and his administration.

    He may be a puppet on a string when it comes to what he is doing. I realize that Iraq was never about weapons of destruction but about oil. Kind of coincidental that Haliburton got the 7 billion dollar contract to rebuild the oil fields of Iraq. We all know who the former CEO of Haliburton is, could it be **** Chaney.

    All I hope for in the United States is that the average citizen can get back control of their country. You need to regain your freedoms that the government is taking away from you a little more every day.

    I hope that the message will be sent to the Republicans on November 7, 2006 and that is that they will lose control in both houses. What I think is that in the United States that you need to create another political party besides the Republicans and Democrats. By doing this not one party may never have total control.

    Its crazy that we have four in Canada but with a minority government in power now it makes them to be held accountable or they will more than likely
    face a non confidence motion.

    Best of luck on November 7 with your Congressional and Senatorial elections.
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    What I think is that in the United States that you need to create another political party besides the Republicans and Democrats. By doing this not one party may never have total control.
    You sir are a genius. On behalf of my fellow Nitwits we thank you.
    http://dir.yahoo.com/Government/U_S_...itics/Parties/
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    Default Get a Third party with Some Force Behind Them.

    Your third most popular party means nothing. The main parties are still the Democrats and Republicans, the others are filler.
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    Really, there isn't all that much difference between Republicans and Democrats. And there is a grey area between them where they blend. If you look closely at party systems in some other democratic countries and compare, this becomes blatant.

    It's green apples versus red apples.

    But it's what there is, and it still makes a difference who is in power.

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    Every country has it's good and bad.

    I chose Canada because it's a less violent society, a socialist society, where the economy is still pretty free and at this point in time, more personal freedom.

    You can't beat the US, when it comes to starting/running a business, but Canada(ontario) is close. I've hired and fired a staff this year. I used Ceridian to do the payroll and handle all the government stuff, just like my US company does. There is a lower social security tax and overtime rules that are more favorable to the employer than in the US.

    As many have said before, taxes are high (though Alberta is probably lower taxes than CA, NY, IL, MA, etc.), the health system is best for the healthy and very sick, but often bad for those in pain/distress without a life threatening condition.

    I'm pretty confident that when it comes to running a business and keeping your wealth in a wealthy country, the rankings look something like this:

    1. US
    2. Canada
    3. Australia
    4. Japan
    4. UK
    5. Germany

    Anyone have anything to add about business/taxes/freedom in other western countries? Is my list right or wrong?

    BTW - if we can get away from the "My country is better than yours" stuff, this is an interesting discussion. Especially with so many people wondering if they should leave US for business purposes.
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