The Negative carry over thread

[Webmaster7]

Hi fellow webmasters!

We all have seen posts with doubts concerning negative carry over issues, so let's try to compile that information for all CAP certified programs, in an easy place for everyone to see.

This way we will easily see which programs understand negative balances as advertising costs, and don't carry over.

I'll ask some questions to all account managers at CAP, and will post the replies here at this thread, and at my site: Carry over?
(online when I have all the replies)

This will take a while, but it's time well spent. I like organized information. Hope you like it too!

[Webmaster7]

Of course poker, sports betting, and others have different situations concerning negative balances, but we still must think about bonuses and others, that sometimes turns your balance negative.

I'm still posting each thread, to each specific forum. It will take a while...

[pokermonger]

Engineer did a wonderful job working on this not too long ago

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ces.10155.html

[Webmaster7]

Good thread there! But I want replies to my specific answers:

- Some programs remove the negative carry over, but they also remove the player. I want to know which do this.

- Others ask you to require this. I want everyone to know with which programs this is necessary.

- I want updated information about this. Many changes have been made in the last few months.

[Greek39]

Thanks Pokermonger for the thread. Engineer did an excellent job take a look. greek39

[Webmaster7]

Yes, that's a great thread. But I want specific public replies to my questions, from each account manager, so that each program that does negative carry overs see that there are other programs that don't do that, and without special rules. In the past, some affiliate managers told me that it was impossible. But it isn't.

This can be very valuable to us all, especially affiliates that have negative 10k
My time is really scarce, but I will give hours of my time to this, because this is really important.

[Webmaster7]

Ok, all post made (I was going crazy...). Now lets wait for the replies.

The first one was Kate, from 32Red:

32Red Affiliates does not carry over negative balances - if you end the month with a negative balance, it will revert to zero on the 1st of the new month.

Also, earnings from each product are ring-fenced, so any negative balance on one product will not affect your earnings from any of our other sites in that month.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86568


This is what I want to hear

And this is even better

Great idea for a thread!

[Goldfinger]

Yes you were going crazy. Not sure this was called for. Your campaign reminds me of the infamous "forum spammer" threads.

[Webmaster7]

The difference is that I'm not earning anything, and working for free, for you.
For me, this information is worth thousands. I could have sent a private PM to each affiliate manager, and keeping all the info for myself, but why not making this public, and share it with you?


Bingo Reward

Please note that we neither carry negatives forward, nor remove players from your account.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86660


Casino Coins

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No - a winning player may spend a million afterwards which wouldnt be fair to the webmaster that delivered them if we removed them for an initial win.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No

4) Any restriction?
If we see there is some type of abuse of no negative carry over we terminate partnership.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86661

[Webmaster7]

Bingo Program

1) Do you carry over negative balance? - No

2) Is the winning player removed from the account? - No, once a player is referred by an affiliate it will be his forever.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement? - No

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86670


AllStar Affiliates

1) Do you carry over negative balance? No.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account? No, but this does not affect the affiliate.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement? No, it is already stipulated in our terms and agreements.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86667


Vip Profits

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
For Casino Revenue NO
For Sports Revenue, YES.
Note here that any negative in sports will NOT affect your casino Revenue!


2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
When wiping out a negative for sports, yes, the player will be removed.


3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
There is no such agreement in effect, if an affiliate has this desire, we can discuss it.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ad.php?p=86671


And thank you Mário for your kind words

Webmaster 7, thanks for making this effort.
There have been many misunderstandings about how VIP Profits deal with negatives, despite the explanations.