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    Default H.R 4411 has reached the Senate

    H.R. 4411 has been received by the Senate. Senator Kyl is supposed to be fighting hard to get this into the appropriate sub-committees ASAP:

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...9:HR04411:@@@X

    Everything is riding on whether it makes it to the Senate floor on time or not. If it makes it to Senate Floor as an intact bill, it will pass, IMO. Our only hopes are that:

    1) It doesn't make it to vote this year (we delay pain for a year); This is
    our best option - it will literally be a race against time. There are only
    15 Senate business days left until summer recess, and approximately
    30 business days left to election stuff starts taking hold;

    2) Somehow the bill gets modified to include ban on Horse Racing and
    Lotteries (small chance of that, since other laws protect those
    interests);

    3) Banking sector comes out full force against this, since it would
    undoubtedly create business hardships on this sector, not to mention
    loss of revenue;

    4) ISP's rebel - doubtful that they will on mandate, since most of them are
    afraid of their ass;

    5) Supreme Court raises freedom of speech issues. This would be hard to
    do prior to it becoming a law;

    6) Lobbyists come out full force, and sway the Senate. I personally think
    that this would have a greater effect in a non-election year. Which
    Senator is going to vote this bill down in an election year ? If you are
    a Republican, specifically, it could be political suicide, in a year where
    the Republicans have already taken a beating. Why take a hit on a
    "moral" issue ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhayman
    1) It doesn't make it to vote this year (we delay pain for a year); This is
    our best option - it will literally be a race against time. There are only
    15 Senate business days left until summer recess, and approximately
    30 business days left to election stuff starts taking hold;

    2) Somehow the bill gets modified to include ban on Horse Racing and
    Lotteries (small chance of that, since other laws protect those
    interests);
    Traditionally one of these or both is what happens.
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    1) It doesn't make it to vote this year (we delay pain for a year); This is
    our best option - it will literally be a race against time. There are only
    15 Senate business days left until summer recess, and approximately
    30 business days left to election stuff starts taking hold;

    2) Somehow the bill gets modified to include ban on Horse Racing and
    Lotteries (small chance of that, since other laws protect those
    interests);
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    Dominique,

    I fully aware of the History of # 1. In regard to # 2, I have 2 questions for you:

    1) Did Senate ever try to Add back Horse Racing & Lotteries to their
    version of the bill ?

    2) If YES on # 1, was the current Horse Racing legislation already enacted ?

    Thanks in advance,

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    1. not sure if it was the house or Senate, I think it was the house.

    2. but if it was the senate, no, wasn't enacted yet.

    3. Lobbying issues are unwise to discuss in public in any way, shape or manner.
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    Hi, I know this is off-topic but I thought somebody might know: what's that address of the where you can go and contact your senator to fight this bill?

    thanks in advance for your reply.
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    One way is to go here xhttp://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ and type your zip code in the box.
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    Thanks Dom.
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    Default This Bill will Pass.

    This Bill is being pushed forward by the Banks themselves. They do not care if they lose a few bucks on the gambling money from the small, overseas casinos. The Big corporate casinos will move in for the internet gambling prize. The Banks are pushing this bill along with the Wire Act Bill redo. Cut out the small guy. Business as usual. Mark my words, this will pass in a heartbeat-there is NO lobbying for offshore casinos!
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    It may vary well pass don't really matter. We have all seen how internet literate these Politicians can be, pretty funny. If they really think they can regulate the www/internet they all in for a big surprise. There are a gizzilion ways of getting aroung this.

    Online Gambling will continue to grow no matter what bills they pass. greek39
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruises101
    The Banks are pushing this bill along with the Wire Act Bill redo. Cut out the small guy. Business as usual. Mark my words, this will pass in a heartbeat-there is NO lobbying for offshore casinos!

    Can you give me a link to where you got this information from?
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