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    Default Feedback please

    Can any webmaster give me some feedback on this Backgammon product, I don't see any activity in the forum. Is anyone promoting this? Making money? Do the players like this? Please provide me some feedback.

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    They are not converting well for me, and backgammon does not generate the kind of revenue that casinos or poker does.

    When you log on it will tell you that there are about 10,000 people playing. Most of those people are playing for less than $10 per game which means they are raking less than 40 cents.

    When asked why he robbed banks, Willie Sutton replied, "That's where the money is."

    I happen to love backgammon, but Willie Sutton will not be playing.
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    Hello Backgammon Jake,

    Thank you for your comments however in fact backgammon players are averaging close to $50 rake per month per player.

    The majority of players even play for less than $10 a game but above 20 games for every log in, which makes more than $10 per day of playing.

    I can understand your apprehension however I can assure you that backgammon does produce the type of revenue that poker does.

    Therefore, for those of you who want to see for yourselves the revenues online backgammon generates,
    All CAP members who sign up to our affiliate program thru http://affiliates.tcads.net/?ref=6580343 will enjoy higher revenues (then other affiliates) from the first player. We will also be willing to discuss and clarify any further questions or enquiries that you may have.
    Please email us at affiliates@tcads.net .

    Dear Islandmaan,
    I hope you find the above more helpful to consider giving backgammon a try (that I believe you will appreciate within months pilot) and you are more than welcome to contact us with further questions.


    Sincerely yours,
    Mati Gross
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    I'd love to hear from anyone else about how they are doing with backgammon. Anyone care to share what kind of conversions they are getting?
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    Interesting viewpoint from the affiliate manager (with a whellbarrow to push) ... but I suspect that it's not the whole story.

    We have a couple of backgammon pages on our site ...

    Gammon Empire - Backgammon Portal review

    and

    Backgammon for Bucks

    Let's just say that they're not putting much oney into our pockets and leave it at that

    I think that in order to convert for Backgammon - you really need to attract keen players - and that means having quite a bit of content on site to draw them in.

    I don't think that newbies are going to gamble for money - and the concept of cross conversion from poker / casino is flawed ....

    So in order to convert - you need a speciailised domain.

    (but that's just my two cents)
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    Thanks Gooner. I am the first to admit that I know very little about SEO or SERP. What little I've learned, I've learned here at CAP, so I thank you for that.
    In my own case I have a backgammon site that really is geared for serious high-level players. It is not for beginners to learn how to play. Perhaps I don't get enough traffic, or the traffic I do get is likely to already be signed up for Play 65 and Gammon Empire. In January and February I was getting 30 or 40 clicks per month at Play 65, and now I am up to about 70 clicks per month. The conversion rate on those clicks is very very low.
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    I look at Backgammon the same way I looked at Bingo a couple of years ago.

    Slow growing and niche. A long term proposition.

    I was right with Bingo, it's just coming into it's own, and I went with it early and get to enjoy the resulting growth, being all in place for it.

    I will do the same with Backgammon. I have the patience for it to gain momentum, and I will be all established when it does.

    I think backgammon will see it's day.
    dominique




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    Default Step By Step Guidance to SUCCESS

    Hi guys,

    Thanks for your interest in the Play65 backgammon product!

    Before I reply to you individual comments, I'd just like to say that here at TC.ADS, we pride ourselves on the high standard of customer service and personal support that we provide to our affiliates.

    It's this aspect that sets us apart from all other affiliate programs.

    As well as the customer service side of things, we now have an "adserver" and unique landing pages to enable our affiliates to optimize their efforts to achieve maximum results.

    Gooner, your comment regarding the need to have quite a bit of content on the site to attract keen players is very true. This is why we have created a "content system" with fresh and unique content written by TC.ADS copywriters. The content is updated on a daily basis. We offer our affiliates access to this system, so that they can modify the articles for their own use.

    I can also assure you Gooner, that if you promote our software as opposed to GE and BG for bucks, you will receive a higher standard of service and guidance to support you in the promotion of the software. It's worth a go…what have you got to lose!

    Backgammon Jake, perhaps we can discuss ways of increasing the traffic through your software. We will contact you.

    I have to say Dominique, (and I'm not being biased here) that you have hit the nail on the head with your comments. In fact, the Daily Telegraph launched this article at the beginning of the year, which just goes to show that there are many people out there thinking along the same lines.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...1/ccgamb01.xml

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mati
    Before I reply to you individual comments, I'd just like to say that here at TC.ADS, we pride ourselves on the high standard of customer service and personal support that we provide to our affiliates.

    It's this aspect that sets us apart from all other affiliate programs.
    I sent you both an email, and a PM 2 days ago and have not heard a response. Many programs pride themselves on getting back to emails within 20 mintues. 24 hours would be the maximum that I would still consider a "high standard of customer service." But then that's just me.
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