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    As you know we cancelled our CPA scheme for NEW affiliates. All those on CPA are affiliates that signed up bofore November 1. Unfortunately, we still encouter cases in which we have to close down accounts, but I am glad tosay that the percentage of these instances has dropped significantly.
    If and when we do reapply CPA it will unforteunately have to be closer to what the rest of the market is offering as CPA commissions, and all accounts will be carefully monitored from day 1.
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    This I would appreciate a great deal. CPA attracts the unsavy types, who lack knowledge or time of building a real site. greek39
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    The fact remains that 888's software systems allow people to deposit, withdraw and play the bonus only.

    The fact remains that 888 terms and conditions do not forbid you to deposit, withdraw, and play the bonus only.

    The fact remains that it would be a simple matter to code the software so this was impossible.

    The fact remains that 888 have chosen NOT to amend their software.

    The fact remains that affiliates who bring in bonus players (I reject the term 'bonus-abusers' because 888 are undoubtedly making money on them over time) are NOT breaking ANY of 888's published terms and conditions.

    You see, it's just easier to advertise better bonuses than your competitiors and then fleece your affiliates.

    BAD casino. End of story.
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    There is no way I would ever consider CPA. The only deal I would do which isn't rev share is a straightforward Media Buy, whereby the payment is upfront and is calculated on your sites serps - Not a promise of x amount of players.

    I still also find it quite incredible that a new site can generate enough decent players on CPA to warrant $84k. Maybe I am missing something, if so could someone tell me what I am doing wrong
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    I quess its' the way we conduct business. Large scale companies take loses and deal with them. In the case of 888.com it appears there are no losses just close affiliate accounts down and claim "bonus abusers". I wonder if Bill Gates didn't offer a return policy or support if He would have been successful? Buy a damaged program, then turn around and say "sorry you are outta luck".

    888.com although personally, can't stand playing there, seems to take no responsibility for there product and will not tolerate losses. Thats is in part why they are making so much money. If they don't like what they see just pull the plug. I would make a fortune operating under these conditions, so would anybody.

    Define bonus abuser, I would think its a player who keeps coming back for seconds. Not in this case they come once, claim the bonus and leave. Is this a bonus abuser?

    Its the webmaster who takes the loss. Its' just a matter of time before 888.com begins too see the results of their immoral business dealings. From my info 888.com is soon to be bought out, I hope that happens. Maybe then things will change.

    I too would appreciate all earnnigs made from scappers of my site be paid too me. Will this happen?

    But rest assured there is a fellow watching this sega unfold. There will be a day when 888.com gets back what it dishes out. greek39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webzcas
    I still also find it quite incredible that a new site can generate enough decent players on CPA to warrant $84k. Maybe I am missing something, if so could someone tell me what I am doing wrong

    Thanks for the sarcasm smiley, Webzcas, they're always appreciated

    But since you're asking...

    I didn't even need a website. It's a simple task to a seasoned internet marketer to generate bonus players. I used a combination of established offline contacts from my other business interests, and opt-in email marketing.

    In fact, show me any casino that

    a) offers a cpa deal worth having,
    b) pays a 100% deposit bonus of at least $200,
    c) allows you to cash out the deposit immediately and play with the bonus,
    d) has a bonus playthrough requirement of no more than 20x
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    e) allows you to spin the roulette wheel without betting,

    and I can start sending 5-10 new players every day after just half an hour's work.

    Problem is, I've never found another casino apart from 888 that offer all those features. But I'm still looking...


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    I would rather not cause too much of a disturbance. I have been up all night, and am pretty sleepy.

    Well here is another site from 888.com its one of there front pages.

    http://www.texas-holdem-school.info/...QuaHRtbA%3D%3D

    The tiltle of the page is "700 FAMOUS NEBRASKANS - Food and Nutrition"

    Some webmasters may want to draw up a sitemap of this site to see if any of your aff tags are being used or description tags. I decided not to post all my findings to try and keep things simple. There are thousands.

    I wonder what "Food and Nutrition have to do with online gambling, a bit spammy. I would love to post the satellite image from the place theses are coming from. But I find it would be inappropiate.

    I am getting very close, to solving this ongoing problem. I wish 888.com could some how explain this. greek39
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    just http://www.texas-holdem-school.info

    ID id=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZWJwcmVzcy5jb20vNzAwL2Zvb2QuaHR tbA%3D%3D

    Title:"700 FAMOUS NEBRASKANS - Food and Nutrition"

    sorry about that. greek39
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    Thumbs up scraper 888.com

    Another scrape connected to 888.com. Found on yahoo backlinks I couldn't resist


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    Scary thing is this....

    ALL of my sites have been getting tons of hits from Isreal for the last several months and I would bet my ass that a lot of others here are seeing the same thing.
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